First, some questions based on your reading in "Here First" over the weekend: (1) What was Dauenhauer doing in the boys' bathroom when she was a schoolgirl? If you know, email me for 50 extra credit points. (2) What did she learn from her grandparents? (2) What did she learn in church? (3) What did she learn in school? (4) From the popular culture? How do the cultural influences conflict and/or blend together? Compare: What did you learn from your grandparents? Church? School? Popular culture? How do the influences conflict and/or blend together? Post your answers as comments to this blog.
We will read Dauenhauer's poem "How to Make Good Baked Salmon from the River." Is it about how to cook fish, or is it about how to live life? Or both? How does the poem reflect the conflict that comes with trying to maintain a traditional lifestyle in modern society?
We will also read a story in The Juneau Empire about Tlingit language classes taught by Dauenhauer and others trying to preserve the culture. And we'll watch some clips of Tlingit music and dance:
- Tlingit dancers demonstrate traditional Tlingit dance on a ferryboat in southeast Alaska.
- Gene Tagaban, a Tlingit storyteller and jazz musician, plays the Native flute and tells a story of how Raven brought fire to the people. While the cedar flute was originally Lakota, it has spread widely and become part of the common heritage of American Indians throughout North America. The Raven story is traditional Tlingit.
- First Peoples Performance, a traditional group across the Canadian border in Carcross, Yukon Territory, performs the Tlingit National Anthem. The anthem was composed in the 1980s and given to the Tlingit people.
The Taglish First Nation of Carcross has a government website listing its services and giving information about the local Taglish and Tlingit culture. Read the Elder's Statement explaining in Tlingit and English their sense of the past and their vision for the future.
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When I think about what I learned from my grandparents it feels like I didn't learn much. But that's what is funny about learning. If you are not at school where you are forced to learn, you don't notice that you are. One huge influence my grandpa had on me was with the games of golf and bowling. My grandpa used to coach golf at Southeast High School and almost joined the PGA tour before his knees went out. He tought me most of what he knew. As far as bowling goes, I still use the same ball he threw when he finished his career. Long story short, you don't always know when you are learning.
2)At church, she learned how to speak russian. So, after learning this, she decided she wanted to go to school.
3)-At school, she began to learn english.
4-I personally never learned Russian at church, and I was probably introduced to english at church. Hers is pretty much the exact opposite.
2)She learned alot from her grandmother, including how to weave roots together to make into baskets. She learned to not waste anything and use the resources she had, which is common in Native American cultures.
3) She said that they used to row to church and she would try and read the Russian prayers.
4) She said she had always wanted to go to school. She had good and bad experiences at school. She remembers being smacked in the knuckles with a ruler, she remembers being teased and hit with snowballs.
I learned quite a bit from my grandparents. I sit down and talk with them about what it was like back when they were growing up. They taught me to save my money, and they also taught me not to lie, cheat, or steal.
She learned many things from her grandparents. From her grandmother she learned how to wove baskets and do different other kids of chores. She also learned how to fish from her father.
From church she tried to learn to read Russian prayers.
In school she learned how to fend for herself. This is because she was teased a lot in school so she had to know how to stick up for herself. She did stick up for herself by beating anyone up who teased her.
From her culture she learned how to sing the songs of her culture. Also how to dance in her culture.
I can relate to this story because I also learned a lot of things from my grandparents, church, and school. From my grandparents I learned how to cook. From church I learned religion and how to keep my faith in check. From school I learned how to read, write, and I also learned how to be sociable with different kinds of people.
In school and in churches she would take the time to try and learn Russian prayers. She learned different things from her grandparents...maybe they didnt want her being lazy or just wanted her to know all sorts of things just like grandparents do today. They taught her to weave baskets, go to churcgh and do chores like other kids would do just like in our culture.
This story relates to me and my life because my grandfather served in the Army so he always tried to teach me a little about everything even if i didnt care that much about.
1)I believe she learned how to basketweave from her grandparents. one of her first memories was of her, her aunt, and grandmother pulling roots to make baskets.
2)She learned how to read in church Russian, and she realized that she wanted to go to school after all.
3)School was the first time she was introduced to English.
4) The differences between the learning she received from her family and the learning i received are very substantial. She learned how to weave baskets from roots, and i learned how to play poker, or similarly to her, my grandfather taught me how to fish. In school i learned reading writing and arithmetic just like she did, but for me it was a lot earier given that its my native language. In church i was taught christianity. Popular culture i learned more negative things than positive probably. My generation of popular culture has to deal with sex and violence. I learned a lot of things from movies or video games. She learned everything from her family and her close friends. They didnt have TV back then, therefore causing her to soley learn from school, church, and her family.
2.) She learned a lot of interesting things growing up among her grandparents. I learned how to play golf and to write left handed, but my father quickly changed that. She was taught how make baskets out of vines. She watched how to sew skin and put beads on.
She liked learning about her past, and she seemed interested in the world around her. At a very early age she began not liking school, the officers would make families ,like hers, move to a particular town. The elders didn’t like it. I was always taught by my parents, my grandparents I didn’t see, learn that much from them. I wish I had taken the time now. Pop-culture is just another way to get money out of a consumer. I was taught economics at a young age. I was raised a saver, not a spender!
She learned a lot from her grandparents and she always talked about seeing them weaving baskets. They also taught her how to live off the land.
At Church she says that she would try and read the russian prayers
At school she got hit across the knuckles for speaking her native language and she says that she would be looked at weird because she was different.
I learned a lot from my grandparents about religion and how to act. There was also the fun side like when we played catch or when he would let me beat him in ping pong. I don't really remember sitting down and learning something but just by being around them i was learning
I think she learned a lot from her whole family. From her grandma I think she learned more about art. Her grandma was always weaving baskets and I think she picked up on that. Her grandma was also a surgeon and she probably learned some of that as well. It didn’t say to much about her grandfather but she said he was blind and nearly deaf. She used to talk to him and tell him what was happening on the boat and when they got really close she felt like those were his eyes.
They were big into church. They believed in a higher power. They also always found time for prayer. The church wasn’t close they had to row to get there. They also went to church meetings and choir practice.
I think school was hard. She was not allowed to speak her native language and if she did she got in trouble. They were only allowed to speak in English and she knew very little English. Although she did not know how to defend herself when she was in trouble, because she did not speak English; she did know how to defend herself on the playground. She beat the boys up who messed with her.
I learned a lot from my grandparents just like her. My grandparents love to play games, so I learned many games. They also love the out doors so I learned many things like that. From church I learned about God and how to treat others. From my school I learned the basic things but I also learned how to adapt and be sociable.
When she was a school girl the boys would throw snowballs at her in the boy's bathroom.
when it comes to her grandparents, I feel that she learned how to treat different infections, or injures with different ingredents like the ingredent called I think "Devil's Root".
When at Church she used to learn how to speak Russian because different people in her family sang in the Russian Orthodox Church.
When she attended school she learned the things needed in English.
What I learned from my grandparents would be that that my generation needs to work hard, and respect other people because if you do that then in the long run they will help you if someone needs help. All I learned from Church would be believe in God nad respect him, and what I learned in school would be how to study hard and try your best at everything you do. They blend together because like I said you have to work hard because for example look at Elvis, he started out as a truck driver, then when he tried hard to be a musician he became famous.
She learned how to make sense out of the Russian language at church which made her want to go to school. She learned how to weave and to use everything that you have from her grandparents.
I have learned a huge amount of what I know from my parents and grandparents. I think that since we are a very closely knit family that I have be influenced the most from my parents and grandparents.
2)Her grandma taught her how to use all her resources that she was given and to never let them go to waste. Her grandma taught her how to make baskets.
3) in church she would learn to read russian prayers. this was an influence of her wanting to go to school.
4)while she was at school she remembers kids throwing snowballs at her and she remembers being hit with a ruler on the knuckles.
My grandparents taught me a lot about life through their experiences in life. they were born in italy and they taught me how harsh life could be expecially during a war. they taught me to never take anything for granted.
2. she learned how to speak russian by church, then she was excited about learning and decided to go to school.
3. she learned english by attending school.
4. i didnt learn anything at our church except for our beliefs the language on the other hand i learned from schooling
2.) Her grandmother taught her a lot, including how to weave baskets as well as many other things in the Native American culture.
3.) At church she learned how to read the prayers in Russian.
4.) She had some bad experiences at school, like being teased by the other students.
I've learned a lot from my grandparents. They've always been good role models for me and a big support system. They've taught me little things like how to do certain things, but also about life and the right way to do things.
I believe the poem is about living a traditional life in today's modern society. With the western world becoming more and more civilized, it is hard to live a traditional life such as our ancestors or the Native Americans did. This poem gives two ways of how to eat a salmon, the traditional way, and today's version.
I think Dauenhauer learned it was okay to express herself in song and dance with her family, and she also learned how to make baskets and braclets from her grandparents. From my grandmother I learned everything I know. She taught me how to cook and sew, to be spiritual, and to most of all to believe in myself.While she was at school is learned quick that she was not going to be able to speak her native language and had to learn to speak English, and also because she was different from the other students, she had to learn to defend herself often. At church she had a hard time due to the fact that she tried to read the Russian prayers.
Her grandmother taught her how to weave baskets made of roots. Also, she learned not to wate anything.
She learned Russian prayers at church.
She always wanted to go to school. Everyone has good and bad memories about school and she's no different.
Thinking back to what I've learned from my grandparents, doesn't seem like a lot, but to me it is. I learned my religious beliefs, family values, and so many more things. I don't think I thank them enough for giving me great guidance. Going to church has taught me to be his light and to spread his word. Going to school has taught me to not take things for granted because you never know when you will lose them.
I think that it is showing both. They talk about enjoying the process of cooking a salmon on an open fire, and how great it is. However, they tell you to do this, and then at the end, they say you could do it the traditional way. Towards the middle, they say that if you can't find soy sauce, to go borrow some. A lot of times these days, people wouldn't want to borrow, they would just go buy their own.
In the poem she is implying that she misses the old way of life. Instead of catching the salmon herself or picking the wild berries, she must go to the store and buy them. The only true way to keep these traditions alive is to remember.
2) When she speaks of her Grandma she say that she always did things slow but very steady. She learned to weave but more importantly I think she learned how to care form her Grandmother. She said her Grandmother was a surgeon and was excellent at what she did.
2) In Church she learned how to read some Russian and also realized that she wanted to pursue schooling.
3) In school she learned English and also interacted with other kids her age. She mentions that the other kids often teased her.
4) I would say I learned many things from my Grandma including how to be caring. Teaching me right from wrong much like Dauenhauer.
What did she learn from her grandparents? She learn Tlight dances and lullabies. What did she learn in church? When she went to church she tryed to learn how to read Russian prayers. What did she learn in school. She had to learn to speak English or she would get into trouble by her tacher and she also learn how to defend herself from other childen who were mean to her. What i learn from my grandparents how to take care of myself and bacome a young lady. My grandmother was actually the one who got me involed in church and what i learn in church is to believe in god and i will go to heaven. I learn that school is very inportant and you can't have anything in life without an good education.
When Nora reflects on the memories of her grandmother, she always remembers her weaving baskets. Also her grandmother was konw as the family doctor, she used her knife to save lives, and helped mend broken bones even though she was warned that what she was doing was wrong. They had to row across a body of water every Sunday to attend church where they learned Russian and sang in the choir. At school Nora had been scoled for speaking her native language rather than English. At the age of sixteen she had saved enough money to go to high school, however, her grandmother disapproved of these plans. When they worked at the cannary the Natives and the whites were separted, so discrimination was present.
I always remember my grandma telling stories with little sayings in them. It was cute.
And with school we always view the holidays as the follow in our culture.
I think that she learned a lot from her grandparents as well as her other family members. I think that from the women in her family she learned a lot about art, such as weaving. I think that with the men in her family she learned a lot about the outdoors work, such as fishing. She also got to see her dad work on boats.
Her family went to church quite often. At church she tried to learn how to read the Russian prayers.
School was not easy for her. She got teased. I feel that because of how she was raised she stood up for herself. She would go into the boy's bathroom and beat them up and then they would usually become her friend after that.
I would say that the way that she was raised is similar in ways to how i was raised. I am very close with my family and everyone in my family has taught me a lot things in life. When i was younger my grandpa always taught all of us grandkids how to do things. We were always outside doing things on the farm, like teaching us how to drive, or going with him to feed the animals. My family has taught me to work hard in life, and to never give up.
Dauenhauer learned how to weave baskets, fish, string beads, live life, have fun, and many more things from her grandparents and other family members. In church, she learned to sing. During school, she would learn to speak a little bit of the Russian language even though she wasn't really allowed to attend school, her parents were able to sneek her in. She would also learn to pray. She liked going to school but had to stop when she was around the age of 16. My grandparents taught me to work hard for what I want and what I believe in and my dreams can come true. They also taught me to save my money and not waste it on useless things. In church, I learned about the way of life and they way people should live. During school I not only learned the basics like how to read and write, but also how to respect and treat others. In many ways the things that I learned from church and in school were similar. Popular culture in general has its own way of teaching the world whatever it is that it wants to teach, whether being good or bad. I believe the poem on how to make good salmon talks about both how to cook fish and how to live life. It seems to be talking about a lifestyle that is almost gone. They seem to not be able to do certain things the way they would like to so they have to modernize it. They would like to live their traditional lifestyles but cannot because of the rest of society.
In school and church she tried to learn Russian prayers. I think that she learned about her culture from her grandparents and from her parents. At school she learned the English language. Learning in church made her want to go back to school, even though she had different experiences there.
1. She was beating up boys in the bathroom.
2. How to make baskets out of weaving and she also learned how not to waste anything.
3. Church was trying to teach her to speak russian and learn to read it.
4. In school she was forced to read and talk english. She use to get smacked at school.
My grandparents have taught me alot. From golfing to fishing to telling stories. Church i learned about the past history of a religon. And at school we have mostly also learned about the past, very rarely is the present or future taught in class. This is what we learn from pop culture is the present and future, is that a good thing? Who knows.
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